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we know at this very moment they're at the ntsb lab, and we know that simply because the ntsb has shared pictures online of the actual flight recordings inside of the lab. so, we're working to turn that around for you. but i can tell you that the analysis of the data that is happening as we speak, they're tryi ining to pull that data of. that's already happening. on the flight data recorder, that holds information like altitude, the speed, the position of the plane. and the cockpit voice recorder is capable of picking up things like the background noises and any warning signals that may have gone off, candy. >> what else is critical to these investigators as they try to figure out what went on? >> well, we know that they're also going to look at things like human performance, specifically those four pilots who were on board. they're going to be looking at their training. did they follow all of the procedures? any possibility of fatigue? because remember, this flight was more than ten hours long, an international flight. they're also going to look at blood and alcohol tests. and the fligh
we know at this very moment they're at the ntsb lab, and we know that simply because the ntsb has shared pictures online of the actual flight recordings inside of the lab. so, we're working to turn that around for you. but i can tell you that the analysis of the data that is happening as we speak, they're tryi ining to pull that data of. that's already happening. on the flight data recorder, that holds information like altitude, the speed, the position of the plane. and the cockpit voice...
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this is a critical question the ntsb is focusing on. were they talking to each other and distracted? was there some sort after cultural thing going on here where they were deferring to one or the other? all of that is going to be part of this investigation as they try to figure out why would four experienced pilots come in so slow, dangerously slow at stall speed, and right up to san francisco international airport a an approach that requires quite a bit of attention as you come in here, alex. >> tom, let me ask you because i think a lot of people are under the impression that in situations like this especially with landings and take-offs, the airplane's on-board computer systems kick in at a certain point if you are in danger and that did not seem to be the case with this flight. do we know why there wasn't sort of an automatic response to the plane flying too low and too slow? >> they were not -- yeah. they were not on auto pilot. they were flying manually. it was up to them to watch their air speed. now the stick shaker kicked in. th
this is a critical question the ntsb is focusing on. were they talking to each other and distracted? was there some sort after cultural thing going on here where they were deferring to one or the other? all of that is going to be part of this investigation as they try to figure out why would four experienced pilots come in so slow, dangerously slow at stall speed, and right up to san francisco international airport a an approach that requires quite a bit of attention as you come in here, alex....
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because the ntsb is saying that the air speed on this aircraft really fell dangerously low. generally you want to hit the end of that runway, you want to come in just like this united airlines flight is coming in right now. you want to come in at about 137 knots and notice that he is touching down almost where the remains of flight 214 are right now. they were coming in at 103 knots. not 137 knots. 103 was their lowest speed just seconds before they hit the end of the pier here. when they hit the sea barrier wall. so the question investigators are asking is, how could that happen? generally the co-pilot is supposed to be watching the air speed and the descent rate. the pilot is supposed to be watching the -- actually doing the flying. so was it one captain thinking the other was watching the airspeed and the other one thinking that the other one had it? there's some question about that. they're interviewing the crew in korean and english. they're trying to get some answers to that. there's another tragic twist to the whole story. that is as firefighters responded with a full
because the ntsb is saying that the air speed on this aircraft really fell dangerously low. generally you want to hit the end of that runway, you want to come in just like this united airlines flight is coming in right now. you want to come in at about 137 knots and notice that he is touching down almost where the remains of flight 214 are right now. they were coming in at 103 knots. not 137 knots. 103 was their lowest speed just seconds before they hit the end of the pier here. when they hit...
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the ntsb does not identify victims. we leave that to the experts in the area, the coroner in this case of the county or the medical examiner in other jurisdictions. the ntsb does not do victim i.d. and we did not do it in this case. i expect we will be on scene for at least a week conducting evidence gathering, interviews and creating factual information. if need be we will be here longer. we tell people it takes 12 to 18 months to complete an investigation. however if we identify any safety issues that we think need immediate attention we have the ability to issue safety recommendations at any time. yes, sir. >> are there cameras on the run ways and are they always recording? have you seen that footage? >> i will defer to the airport officials. we have requests any footage recorded on the airport that would record the accident sequence or the after math of the accident. we found in past investigations that the video footage whether it is surveillance or security video or whether it is video provided by the public can b
the ntsb does not identify victims. we leave that to the experts in the area, the coroner in this case of the county or the medical examiner in other jurisdictions. the ntsb does not do victim i.d. and we did not do it in this case. i expect we will be on scene for at least a week conducting evidence gathering, interviews and creating factual information. if need be we will be here longer. we tell people it takes 12 to 18 months to complete an investigation. however if we identify any safety...
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and also, i want to bring in debora hersman here with the ntsb, the chairman of the ntsb. thank you for being with us. the association of airline pilots is upset that so much information has come out, that you are making so much information about raw data about this crash available to the public. how do you respond to their concerns? >> one of the hallmarks of ntsb's investigations is our transparency. we have a standard process for going to accident sites and providing briefings. information that we release is factual in nature and it's not subject to change throughout the course of the investigation. we've been very careful to caution people not to draw any conclusions. we understand that there are many advocates out there for different interests, but the ntsb is an advocate for the traveling public, and part of what we do is making sure the public has confidence in our investigations. >> i guess, the lack of information can also cause speculation concern in the public. is that sort of the balance you're working off of here? >> absolutely. we know we've been doing this f
and also, i want to bring in debora hersman here with the ntsb, the chairman of the ntsb. thank you for being with us. the association of airline pilots is upset that so much information has come out, that you are making so much information about raw data about this crash available to the public. how do you respond to their concerns? >> one of the hallmarks of ntsb's investigations is our transparency. we have a standard process for going to accident sites and providing briefings....
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the flight data recorders have arrived at the ntsb lab in d.c. and investigators have started downloading the material. ntsb chairman deborah hersman told me they will be reviewing data and interviewing pilots in the coming days. the death toll in the crash stands at 2 with 182 injured. we will continue to follow the story and bring you live news conferences as they happen. thank you for watching "state of the union." right now, it is time for right now, it is time for "fareed zakaria gps." -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> this "gps," the "global public square." welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i am fareed zakaria in new york. after a week of great turmoil, it's another day of tension in egypt today with two big competing rallies expected in cairo. we'll spend much of the hour looking at what the fragile future holds for egypt, the arab world's most populous nation, after president morsi was unceremoniously ousted earlier this week by the military. we'll start with the former national security adviser and
the flight data recorders have arrived at the ntsb lab in d.c. and investigators have started downloading the material. ntsb chairman deborah hersman told me they will be reviewing data and interviewing pilots in the coming days. the death toll in the crash stands at 2 with 182 injured. we will continue to follow the story and bring you live news conferences as they happen. thank you for watching "state of the union." right now, it is time for right now, it is time for "fareed...
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the ntsb says other pieces of wreckage are in the water. >> i have a large plane down. it's well evolved in fire and people are exiting the plane and the collection point has been established. at that point, i raised it to a third alarm and declared a red alert. >> first responders today describe the chaotic, surreal scene arriving just a couple minutes after the crash. with jet fuel spewing out of the plane, investigators rushed to get outside and get several passengers trapped, all at the back of the aircraft where the worst damage was. >> in the wings of that plane is jet fuel. jet fuel is leaking out of the plane and our firefighters, under the direction of anthony robinson originally, and battalion chief mark johnson, entered the plane, began a primary search and began to extinguish fire. >> reporter: but with the heroism comes a possible tragedy. the san francisco fire department acknowledging that one of its emergency vehicles may have run over one of the two chinese girls who died. >> there was a possibility that one of the two fatalities might have been contact
the ntsb says other pieces of wreckage are in the water. >> i have a large plane down. it's well evolved in fire and people are exiting the plane and the collection point has been established. at that point, i raised it to a third alarm and declared a red alert. >> first responders today describe the chaotic, surreal scene arriving just a couple minutes after the crash. with jet fuel spewing out of the plane, investigators rushed to get outside and get several passengers trapped,...
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the chairman of the ntsb, who is on the ground in san francisco, debby hersman joins me now. chairman, you've said this morning off lot of good information to start going through. describe what that is. >> well, we have a good number of survivors, and i think we're very thankful that the numbers were not worse when it came to fatalities and injuries. it could have been much worse. we have crew that survived that we can interview. and significantly, we have cockpit voice recorders and flight data recorders that have been recovered, went back on a red eye last night under federal escort to d.c. we hope to audition those in our headquarters in the next 24 hours. >> i know you have an opportunity with investigators to actually go through that burned-out fuselage. those pictures are dramatic of you, also the aftermath of this flight. the bit of information that you do have, no distress calls reportedly from the flight crew, and as tom costello mentioned reports from the airline that there was no engine trouble. i realize you can't make conclusions. what does that lead you to belie
the chairman of the ntsb, who is on the ground in san francisco, debby hersman joins me now. chairman, you've said this morning off lot of good information to start going through. describe what that is. >> well, we have a good number of survivors, and i think we're very thankful that the numbers were not worse when it came to fatalities and injuries. it could have been much worse. we have crew that survived that we can interview. and significantly, we have cockpit voice recorders and...
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the ntsb has been tweeting photos. they've been forthcoming with a lot of the information, with there information. it's just amazing that it wasn't a lot worse. >> i know. amazing it's not a lot worse. you hear these stories of people being on the ground for quite some time without emergency workers. >> yeah, that's -- i want to hear more about that. because that's not the story we got initially. my impression was it had been a pretty rapid and successful response by the first responders there in san francisco. 20 minutes. i mean, that -- can't have that. >> that is really something. al, you tonigdon't like flying. >> i don't. it's why we show these pictures. we got to remind en, especially my two older boys, that this is the strong et stretch of safety in the history of u.s. aviation and none of that means anything to you, does it, you and john madden are still going to get in your van -- >> and mika. >> and now like mika who doesn't understand how they stay up in the air. >> i was in a flight with my daughter about a
the ntsb has been tweeting photos. they've been forthcoming with a lot of the information, with there information. it's just amazing that it wasn't a lot worse. >> i know. amazing it's not a lot worse. you hear these stories of people being on the ground for quite some time without emergency workers. >> yeah, that's -- i want to hear more about that. because that's not the story we got initially. my impression was it had been a pretty rapid and successful response by the first...
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the california ntsb team was here within hours and then joined by the washington, d.c. team overnight. they had a chance to get out there and gate preliminary look as their investigation is now well underway. two black boxes have been recovered in good condition. they have already been flown back to washington, d.c. and are being analyzed and will help guide the investigation. they also tell us when you look at the fuselage and that wreckage it is amazeing that so many people walked away from the crash unharmed. in fact, take a listen to one survivor. he tells quite a tale. >> the thing was cracked on o the right inside but you we managed to open the door. somebody helped me push it out. there were no slides when i looked outside i could see debris. a piece of the wing step on this and then go down further. >> the two victims were two teenaged girls from china. chinese nationals on their way from los angeles through san francisco as part of a summer camp. we have is not been told as to what caused their deaths. the rest of the group did survive the crash here in san fra
the california ntsb team was here within hours and then joined by the washington, d.c. team overnight. they had a chance to get out there and gate preliminary look as their investigation is now well underway. two black boxes have been recovered in good condition. they have already been flown back to washington, d.c. and are being analyzed and will help guide the investigation. they also tell us when you look at the fuselage and that wreckage it is amazeing that so many people walked away from...
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ntsb officials have left here, they've gone back to d.c. they're still investigating. one thing i can tell you. i flew into san francisco airport yesterday. i purposely sat on the left-hand side of the plane so i could get a bird's eye view of the runway. they were fixing it up extremely fast. it was repaved. they put new lights up. the faa test flew a couple of planes and it is open again. they worked very hard, very fast to get that open again, also repairing part of the seawall. i grew up in this area. when you land in san francisco, it looks like you're going to land in the bay. when they hit the seawall, there was minor damage. they repaired that as well. getting this airport back up and running again. i just checked the boards, there's still a flight 214 on asiana airlines landing at around 11:15 a.m. coming in from seoul. they haven't retired the number at this point. >> wow. stephanie elam following it from san francisco for us. thank you so much. >>> right now in sanford, florida, we're watching the situation, six jurors, all women, going over the evidence. th
ntsb officials have left here, they've gone back to d.c. they're still investigating. one thing i can tell you. i flew into san francisco airport yesterday. i purposely sat on the left-hand side of the plane so i could get a bird's eye view of the runway. they were fixing it up extremely fast. it was repaved. they put new lights up. the faa test flew a couple of planes and it is open again. they worked very hard, very fast to get that open again, also repairing part of the seawall. i grew up in...
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the head of the ntsb says the plane struck the sea wall on monday, and part of the tail was found in san francisco bay. for the first time we're hearing from the first responders who rushed into the burning aircraft. >> we kept on trying to get the crew -- they're really brave. they wanted to stay with the plane and make sure everybody was off. we kept saying, get down, get down and officer lee and i turned around and looked at the wing of the plane, gushing with fuel right next to us. we got to get out of here, get out of here, let's go. >> pictures emerged of the two chinese middle school girls killed in the crash. authorities are looking into the possibility one may have been struck to an emergency vehicle responding to the scene. >>> over 30 people still missing after a grisly train crash in quebec and the owner of the train says he is certain it was tampered with and they have evidence. "usa today" says they responded to a fire aboard the same train earlier friday night. later the tanker car somehow came loose after the operator parked it for the night. they picked up speed as t
the head of the ntsb says the plane struck the sea wall on monday, and part of the tail was found in san francisco bay. for the first time we're hearing from the first responders who rushed into the burning aircraft. >> we kept on trying to get the crew -- they're really brave. they wanted to stay with the plane and make sure everybody was off. we kept saying, get down, get down and officer lee and i turned around and looked at the wing of the plane, gushing with fuel right next to us. we...
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fake names for the pilots were confirmed by a summer intern working at the ntsb. it was not immediately clear who skreb rated the face names, but the ntsb said it was not the intern. there is a warning from the journalist who broke the story about the nsa surveillance program. glenn greenwald says the man who leaked the material edward snowden has more information that would be dire for the u.s. if released. he said snowden has enough information to cause more harm to the u.s. government in a single minute than any other person has ever had. u.s. government should be on their knees every day praying that nothing happens to snowden because if something happen, all information will be revealed and that would be their worst nightmare. snowden said he will ask russia for temporary asylum, but russia says so far it has received no such request. >>> almost two week after a military coup, egypt's interim government is now taking shape. former u.n. nuclear inspector was sworn in today as interim vice president for foreign relations. egypt's interim prime minister is meeti
fake names for the pilots were confirmed by a summer intern working at the ntsb. it was not immediately clear who skreb rated the face names, but the ntsb said it was not the intern. there is a warning from the journalist who broke the story about the nsa surveillance program. glenn greenwald says the man who leaked the material edward snowden has more information that would be dire for the u.s. if released. he said snowden has enough information to cause more harm to the u.s. government in a...
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that's the kind of thing the ntsb wants to get to the bottom of. that has been a problem in previous crashes. guys, back to you. >> all right. tom costello, thanks very much. >>> sam stein, thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks. >> eugene robinson, stay with us. up next, christine quinn has her eye on the mayor's mansion in new york city. there's a crowded field of contenders. we'll talk big apple politics in just a moment right here on "morning joe." [ tap ] [ tap ] ♪ 'cause tonight [ tap ] ♪ we'll share the same dream ♪ ♪ at the dark end of the street ♪ ♪ ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ where over seventy-five percent of store management started as i'm the next american success story. working for a company hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. v
that's the kind of thing the ntsb wants to get to the bottom of. that has been a problem in previous crashes. guys, back to you. >> all right. tom costello, thanks very much. >>> sam stein, thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks. >> eugene robinson, stay with us. up next, christine quinn has her eye on the mayor's mansion in new york city. there's a crowded field of contenders. we'll talk big apple politics in just a moment right here on "morning...
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>> reporter: ed, we know that the ntsb go team has been working all night working through the night continuing to work today looking at that burned out fuselage that's broken apart that's what's left of asiana flight 214. they've got the black boxes now back in washington. they flew them there overnight. they're going to be looking and analyzing the data in there, the performance of the plane, listen to the cockpit conversations, to what the pilots were saying when this all was happening. essentially trying to find out what happened, why this plane came in essentially too slow, too low, the tail hitting the seawall separating the san francisco bay from the airport and the runway and then slamming on to the runway and skidding down and lost the tail assembly, it lost landing gear before skidding off the runway. we also know this morning that the two victims, the two people killed in this crash are 16-year-old girls from china. they were part of one of two school groups from chinese middle schools who were coming here for summer camp which included visits to some of the college campuses here in
>> reporter: ed, we know that the ntsb go team has been working all night working through the night continuing to work today looking at that burned out fuselage that's broken apart that's what's left of asiana flight 214. they've got the black boxes now back in washington. they flew them there overnight. they're going to be looking and analyzing the data in there, the performance of the plane, listen to the cockpit conversations, to what the pilots were saying when this all was happening....
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from the ntsb dramatic photos of the debris from flight 214 including rocks and boulders from the seawall and this photo showing the extensive fire damage in the economy section of the plane. had passengers not escaped as quickly as they did, the number of dead and injured would have surely been higher. in seoul, some of the flight attendants have now returned home. >> translator: we're lucky to come home. there are still several colleagues left back in san francisco. it breaks my heart when i think of them. >> reporter: back on the runway, salvage crews have begun moving the wreckage to a remote location of the airfield. san francisco is hoping to repair and reopen runway left by sunday or monday and investigators looking into why the pilots of flight 214 struggled to line up properly for landing, then failed to monitor their air speed, say the flight data recorder shows the plane's engines and automated systems were working properly at the time of the crash. >> there is no anonmow lus behavior of the auto pilot, of the flight director and auto notles. >> reporter: the question, did the
from the ntsb dramatic photos of the debris from flight 214 including rocks and boulders from the seawall and this photo showing the extensive fire damage in the economy section of the plane. had passengers not escaped as quickly as they did, the number of dead and injured would have surely been higher. in seoul, some of the flight attendants have now returned home. >> translator: we're lucky to come home. there are still several colleagues left back in san francisco. it breaks my heart...